Category Archives: Sopley Beyond Bob Doubles

BEYOND BOB DOUBLES. SOPLEY 6th February 7:30pm until 9:00pm

Dear Beyond Bob Doublers!

It’s now time to refresh/start on minor methods.  We’ll begin with plain courses for anyone who wants them, and move up through basic touches, touches with singles and lots of calls.

We’ll also spend some time on Stedman touches, so put in your requests on the night.

Variable treble bob doubles has been popular and unexpectedly successful, and we could try to take it a step further.

Finally, Ross has come up with a little principal/method he thought we might like to have a go at – see Saturn Doubles attached.  Bobs (I think),- bell making thirds going up makes long thirds and goes in, Bell in 4/5 up triple dodges with bell doing 5/4 down dodge, then makes fifths, and bell dodging 5/4 down triple dodges before going in slow (making 3rds going down. Try drawing it – it makes sense then. .

Unfortunately I can’t be there that week (in Spain), but John and Ross will have plenty for you to do!

Have fun


PDF below!

Saturn Doubles


Don’t forget it’s the first BBD practice of 2019 tonight! Sopley 7:30pm until 9:00pm

Hi all,
I would imagine we’re all desperate to get back to normality.
We’ve made such good progress over the past few months we can look to be a little more ambitious this year and we’ll be building on the experience gained so far.
I’d like to have a last look at variations with Bluebell which is Grandsire doubles with Wallflower bobs and singles (plain lead of All Saints at single but with grandsire bob thirds at a bob with usual turrets at back- confused!).  If anyone wants a try at variable treble bob doubles we could have another go – it’s good fun.
In the coming practices we’ll continue with touches of Stedman (maybe affecting 2 pairs), splicing doubles (eg plain bob,St Simons, St Martins,) and I think the time has come to look at some Minor – Little Bob Minor, Single Canterbury (sometimes referred to as Reverse Canterbury minor) – bobs as Reverse Canterbury  unaffected in 5/6 and St Clement’s College Bob (bobs/singles as Bob minor). We may well need to refresh on Plain Bob minor first, though.
A busy first night, and obviously we’ll not be able to manage all this at one go , so it’ll form the basis for our forthcoming practices.  If you have any particular requests please let me know.
Looking forward to seeing you all then,
Happy Bellringing New Year

Regular Monthly District Practices

Dear District,

Here is a reminder of the regular monthly district practices.  If your tower is running a monthly practice, and would like to be included on the list, and calendar online/printed events calendar, please let us know.

Please do support your local monthly district practices:

Every 1st Monday:

Sacred Heart Bournemouth 6:00pm-7:30pm Method Monday Contact Kim Matthews (focus on a method/touches/calling/splicing chosen by popular consensus) Join the email list to find out next times method.

Every 1st Wednesday: 

Sopley 7:30pm-9:00pm Beyond Bob Doubles  Contact Tim Kettle taking doubles methods to the next level with variants and splicing. Links between methods such as Winchendon and various St.s’ group of methods!

Ringwood 7:45pm-9:15pm Suprise Major Contact Elizabeth Davey

Every 2nd Tuesday:

St. John’s Bournemouth 8 Bell Practice 7:30pm-9:00pm Contact Penelope Samuel.  Anything 8 bells goes on here, come and practice your triples methods, call changes and rounds on 8 bells.

Every 2nd Wednesday:

Lymington 7:30pm-9:00pm Doubles & Minor Practice Contact Colin Butler.  Plain courses and touches of doubles and minor methods. Come and practice your calling too.

Every Thursday

St. Peter’s Bournemouth Bell Handling Night 7:30pm-9:00pm Contact Romy Coldman. Any aspects of bell handling on this heavy 8, covered by a unique array of excercises, to really get into the nitty-gritty of the nitty-gritty! Methods are not covered at this practice night.

It is advisable to inform the practice organiser if you plan to attend events, should the rare chance of a last minute cancellation happen, a message can be sent to you directly.

C&S Beyond Bob Doubles at Sopley on Wed 7th November

This will be our last practice before Christmas (there’s a concert in the church in December) – so a bit of  Christmas Party fun, with everyone able to choose something from the repertoire we’ve practised this year.  Anything on the variations schedule (methods and variations) is possible, plus splicing plain courses, splicing touches, bob minor (we’ve some different touches to try out) – and don’t forget Stedman.
It would help if you could let me know what you’d like to try, so a programme can be drawn up, and please let me know if you’re able to come along.
Could be a great evening’s entertainment.
Hope to see you then,

C&S Beyond Bob Doubles – Wed 3rd October – 7.30pm – Sopley

Hi all,
At this practice we will try out our new found skills at learning new methods by consolidating progress so far by attempting variations taken from a choice of Reverse Canterbury, Plain Bob, Grandsire, St Simons, St Martins and Winchendon Place.  The variations will be bobs and singles we know from ringing other methods – eg a wallflower single is a plain lead of All Saints. We will only be ringing known methods and known bobs/singles (so nothing extreme etc) but note that Reverse St Bartholomew plain course is Grandsire singles and bobs are plain bob.
The variations are set out in the charts which everyone should have – please let me know if you need copies.
Touches of Stedman could bring some light relief to the proceedings!
Please confirm you are intending to come so I can ensure we have a viable practice.
Looking forward to seeing you there


Forthcoming Beyond Bob Doubles Practice, information for members. (Sopley)

Dear friends,
Our next gathering will be at Sopley on Wednesday 5th September 2018 at 7:30pm-9:00pm.
Tim Kettle, our brave leader, has suggested for this practice consolidating both plain courses, and touches of the following methods:
St. Simon’s Doubles
St Martin’s Doubles
Winchendon Place Doubles
Stedman Doubles
Splicing of St. Simon’s & St. Martin’s Doubles
If there is anything that anyone would particularly like to cover, please let Tim know in advance, and I’m sure this can be incorporated.  I know that some members find it a useful opportunity to also practice their callings.
This really is a great learning atmosphere, and I’m proud to be part of a group that makes so much progress from one month to another.
Of course, there will be drinks in The Woolpack afterwards, to celebrate our various successes.
Look forward to seeing you there!

Report from Beyond Bob Doubles practice, Wed. 1st August 2018

Last night’s BBD (Beyond Bob Doubles) practice led by Tim Kettle, flanked by Ross Bradley, was incredibly successful for all. We had touches of Stedman, followed by touches of Reverse Canterbury, Winchendon Place, St. Martin’s, St. Simon’s, and ending in a variation of South Repps.

As a learner, I had a eureka moment, observing how similar, some methods are related to each other, and with a small tweek of a line, I was able to ring in something new to me, fairly successfully, in a jovial and supportive gathering.  There were also quite a few ‘firsts’ for other members too.

The evening became a hive of activity, members sharing tips, and puzzling over problems together.

We also welcomed Chris for the first time, a new face to some, and a super-great chap.  In the past Chris rang at Ringwood, Fordingbridge and Hampreston. After a lengthy-ish period of rope-neglect, he is back to join our district.

BBD is held on the first Wednesday of the month at Sopley 7:30pm – 9:00pm. Drinks afterwards in The Woolpack.

Report by Peter Murdock-Saint.

Contact Tim Kettle (BBD Practice Night Leader)

Beyond Bob Doubles Practice at Sopley, Wednesday 4 July at 7.30pm (RSVP)

We hope to be able to continue with extending our experience new methods and variations at this practice and it would be very useful as the holiday season approaches to know who is ale to be there. Please let me know so I can confirm we have enough ringers to be able to go ahead.

The programme will include touches of Stedman, mixed plain courses of doubles methods we can already ring, and variations (suggestions are April Day, Southrepps, Kennington, Cliffords Pleasure), and the St Martins/St Simons group of methods.

So study these (all on the info already sent out) and we should have a good practice,

Hope you can come and looking forward to seeing you then,

Tim Kettle

RSVP for Sopley “Beyond Bob Doubles” Weds June 6th

It’s time to start thinking about what we do next after our success with All Saints. A logical plan is to ring Little Aston, which is Reverse Canterbury with Wallflower singles (aka a plain lead of All Saints. We can also start using other bobs/singles on Bob Doubles and Grandsire to ring more variations.

This will lead on to the St Simons/Winchendon Place group of methods when the possibilities of variations get even more plentiful!

Here is a chart of some variations (in case you haven’t got a copy of John’s sheets) which should make things a bit clearer.

In the meantime we’ll try not to forget Stedman – I know several of you want more practice at singles.

Would you please confirm you will be coming or not?

I look forward to seeing you there

Tim Kettle

Sopley Beyond Bob Doubles Practice Wednesday 2 May

By popular request we will be concentrating solely on All Saints – plain courses and touches.  If I have misunderstood this requirement please let me know.

It is important to be prepared by doing the homework.  Understand the work at a Bob (plain lead of Reverse Canterbury) and the importance of where you have passed the treble which tells you what lead work you are doing eg places up( 2/3), long 5ths (3/4) , places down (4/5) or seconds (observation).

To make sure we will have enough ringers to make a viable practice would you please confirm you are coming as I already know of one member of the band who is away.


BBD practice at Sopley Wednesday 4 April

After a week deprived of ringing, we’ll all (hopefully) be eager to resume the  normal  programme.

This week we’ll continue with All Saints and Reverse Canterbury – ringing one with the bobs a plain lead of the other (lookup pink singles on John’s sheets to see that they’re All Saints).

It’s really time to crack singles of Bob Minor and there will be touches of Stedman with a difference!

Hope to see you next week

Tim Kettle

PS : For the future start thinking about and looking at St Simons (doubles) and St Clements (minor).  There are lots of methods that follow on from these.

Sopley Beyond Bob Doubles Weds 7th March

All being well, and the snow has gone as forecast, there will be a practice next Wednesday.

I will be missing, but John will be giving you plenty to do:- including touches of All Saints and Stedman, splicing plain courses of methods, and touches of Bob Minor.

Just one suggestion from me –  as All Saints bobs are a plain course of Reverse Canterbury,  and Little Aston is Reverse Canterbury with bobs of a plain lead of All Saints  (which is the same as a pink single),  how about giving Little Aston a try (BTW it’s classed as a method – not a variation).

Have fun at a good practice,

See you later in the month


Sopley Beyond Bob Doubles -Wednesday 7 February

As you probably know, the group managed a touch of All Saints at the last practice, but if you were not in that team or at the practice and would like to reach that goal, there will be another opportunity at the next practice at Sopley.

To consolidate the methods rung to date we will be aiming to ring touches of Reverse Canterbury, Stedman and Bob Minor. Look out for some fun with “Mixed Doubles” and variations of methods by swapping bobs and singles eg Reverse Canterbury with Grandsire singles is Clifford’s Pleasure, or with Plain Bob Bobs is Southrepps.

Looking a bit further ahead, future methods will include the St Simon’s/Winchendon Place group of methods, leading up to the minor versions (St Clements etc) and looking at more different bobs and singles to incorporate into methods.

Don’t forget that we can always try anything requested by members of the group (if it is within our capability).

I hope to see you there,

Tim Kettle

Sopley Beyond Bob Doubles Weds 3rd Jan

Hi all,

Just to confirm the group will be practising at Sopley at 7.30 on Wednesday 3 January. If we maintain the progress of the last 2 practices we should be able to manage touches of All Saints. We will refresh on plain courses of the method and Reverse Canterbury, remembering that a bob in All Saints is a plain lead of Reverse Canterbury – what you do depending on where you passed the treble before the bob was called.

Touches of Bob Minor and Stedman will be included and if you want to call a touch of anything (that we can ring) give it a go. Other methods etc dependant on time and ability of band.

It would be very helpful if you could let me know if you’re coming to the practice and any requests you may have,

Looking forward to seeing you there


Plans for CS “Beyond Bob Doubles” Weds Dec 6th (Bournemouth)

As you all know our next practice is at St Peter’s and we will continue with All Saints, this time touches.  We’ll refresh plain courses of the method and of Reverse Canterbury and them combine them in the touch. A bob is a plain lead of Reverse Canterbury – so remembering where you passed the treble is your best clue of what to do at a bob.

Dependant on who is available, we could also be ringing Stedman Doubles, Bob Minor (with singles) and Kent TB minor  (as a refresher some treble bob plain hunt may be necessary).

Don’t forget – if anyone wants to call a touch (or start/stop) let me know and we can include it.

For the future I think looking up St Simons and Winchendon Place would provide a good grounding for a whole group of related methods/variations which can be interesting to ring.

Park in the churchyard and come to the door at the top of the steps for 7.30 start and I will have parking permits if you require them.  If you are going to be late please try to let me know in advance so we know we don’t have to wait. There is a bell push on the right hand door, but give us time to come down as it’s 64 steps down (and up again).

Finally, would you please let me know if you are coming to this practice and with any special requests?

Many thanks and I look forward to seeing you there,


Sopley -Beyond Bob Doubles Nov 1st – RSVP

By coincidence our first practice of this group falls on All Saints day, 1 November, so it would be appropriate to ring the method of the same name that evening.
It is a method best rung “by the treble”. Ring a grandsire single at the front, eg seconds and long thirds, with 5ths 4ths 5ths when meeting treble at 3/4 and 4/5. Lying over the treble in 4/5 down means seconds at next lead. Looking at the line will make this clearer. Bobs are a plain lead of Reverse Canterbury, so we may need to practice this as well.
We will also cover calling touches of Bob Doubles, touches of Stedman Doubles and singles of Bob Minor. If time permits Treble Bob Plain Hunt and Kent could be included.
Hopefully this will an interesting start to this practice and provide a base for future practices.

To help plan the practice it would be very useful to know who intends to come (but not compulsory), so please let me know if possible.

Tim Kettle

Sopley “Beyond Bob Doubles” practice Objectives

With 2 weeks to go until the first practice of our group with its extended remit, we need to set out our objectives.

The intention is that the practice should provide a solid grounding in learning a variety of methods once the basics have been mastered and provide an opportunity for members to improve their skills. This will include calling touches for those who want to progress towards conducting (with this in mind, Bob Doubles can be rung if anyone wants to call a touch of it – thus giving an chance for others to ring it if needed).

We’ve already had requests for touches of Stedman doubles, calling touches of Bob Doubles, Bob Minor singles practice, Treble Bob Plain Hunt, Kent Treble Bob, Little Bob Minor and Cambridge Minor – a pretty wide field of activity, and what we do will of course depend on the range of ability and help available, and I’m pleased to say that already one expetienced ringer has offeted to help when he can.

I like the idea of ringing a variety of methods, perhaps featuring a particular doubles or minor method each month to be decided at the previous practice. Suggestions could include All Saints, the St Simons/ Winchendon Place group of methods and variations, Grandsire Minor, Single Oxford, Single Canterbury, and this would mean knowing Reverse Canterbury and Bob Minimus as they are the bases for these methods.

Please let me know your wishes for the practice so we can provide something for everyone. I hope we’ll all have some fun in learning and succeeding in trying things new, as well as progressing with the existing repertoire!

We would welcome anyone who can ring Bob Doubles (with touches) to the practice and if you know of anyone who might be interested please let me know or ask them to email me.

I look forward to your input,

Tim Kettle

Sopley Minor Methods Practice to become “Sopley Beyond Bob Doubles”

After considering the requests of members of the Bob Minor practice and consulting with others, it’s been realised there is a big gap between the average tower practice and going to a minor methods only practice. This is due (in the Bournemouth area at least) to many new learners at tower practices and the need for lots of rounds and call changes taking up most of the limited time available.

Requests have been made for Stedman doubles especially, and for a chance to call touches of doubles/principles methods. It’s also an opportunity to try methods that would be commonly rung if there was no time constaint – eg the St Simons/ Winchendon Place group of methods/variations, variations of Bob Doubles and Grandsire, etc etc etc………..

It is not envisaged that we would ring Plain Bob/Grandsire Doubles except for a “go” at calling touches – teaching the basic methods would defeat the object of the practice. Of course, minor methods will still be on the “curriculum” from Bob Minor onwards to Treble Bob and Surprise (if we have the ability).

At the same time the practice will revert to the 1st Wednesday of the month, the first practice being on the 1st November.

The Ringing Master will be Tim Kettle, and he would welcome any assistance in running the practices.

If you have any requests or would like to know more or would like to help run the practices, please contact Tim Kettle