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http://dove.cccbr.org.uk Dove’s Guild for Church Bell Ringers

How to find a Tower in a New Area

Whether you are on holiday, moving house or moving to University, you may be hunting for a band of ringers to join for Sunday or Practice Nights. Here’s a five minute guide to how to do it:

Search for a tower by Postcode…

Dove Online (the database of towers which covers the whole world) has a Postcode Search on this page: http://dove.cccbr.org.uk/postcode.php You can look in 5 mile radius or further afield.

… Or Search for a tower by town/village name

If you don’t have a postcode then start on the home page of Dove http://dove.cccbr.org.uk/dove.php

Now Find out more about the likely towers

By one of those routes, you should now have a list of towers with very basic information (Practice Night, Number of Bells, Tenor Weight). Clicking on a tower’s name will give you the full page of information – check the “additional information” in case the bells are out of action for any reason.

Map of the Isle of Wight taken from Dove. Click for interactive
Click to enlarge map

The Google Map option can be very helpful – you will see not just a map of the tower, but also all the nearby towers. Click a tower’s icon on the Dove map if you want Google to give you Directions…

Jump to the local website

Where the local ringers have a local website (it could be a Guild, District or Tower site), Dove may list a URL for it – fingers crossed this should work, and you will hope to find more about the band including the all important Contact Information…

Get in Touch

If your visit to the tower is going to entail planning and travel, then it will be disappointing if you find that there is no practice or service ringing this week… and not all towers keep their web page(s) spotlessly up to date. So you are advised to ring/email beforehand just to check.

If there is no URL given on the Dove page…

Then some more detective work can be helpful:

  • TCCCBR NEW LOGO 2016ry the “Affiliation” link on the Dove page. This will send you to the CCCBR directory of Guild Websites and you should be able to find at least some local information there.
  • If you cannot find any contact information for the tower itself (and Guild websites do vary on this) District or Guild officers are usually more than happy to give you the benefit of their local knowledge.
  • Googling a church can be fruitful – the church’s own website often has contact information for the ringers.
  • Ifacebook logo smallf all else fails, ask your local ringing friends (you would be surprised how well travelled some of your local friends may be!) either on Facebook or in person.

And if you don’t like computers…

..dovecoverimage you probably would like to own a copy of Dove’s Guide in its original book form. This is currently £15.

 

 

 

Oh Dear, what’s going on with the Tenor weights?

It seemed innocent enough – keeping the information about bell weights simple by rounding them (in the tower directory) to the nearest hundredweight.

But you don’t like it!!! So once we have munched though our Turkey and rung in the New Year we will put some elbow grease into sorting out the problem and NOT rounding them any more… Meanwhile, you tenor’s weight can be admired throughout the Christmas Season on Dove Online, the definitive home for correct information about your belfry!

Thank You for your patience!

Request for Testing – Please check your Dove Online page

Dear Tower Correspondents and Tower Captains,

Thank you for testing your tower page (and contact page if you have provided us with an email address) over the past week. A healthy proportion of people have run this test and very few errors have come to light so we have been able to continue with the planned schedule of going live.
A key milestone was passed last night – the majority of the Guild’s Dove [website] links now point to the new Guild website, wpbells.org. However if your nominated [website] on Dove was one other than wp-ringers.org.uk orcandsbellringers.com, it will NOT have been changed. This decision is a local band one, not a webmaster’s!
 
From the user’s point of view this change on Dove means that you can now use Dove’s very powerful internal search engine to pick out towers of your choice on the new Guild Website. Instructions are here.
From the public’s point of view, any ERRORS IN DATA BETWEEN THE SITES will now become rather obvious….. so here is this week’s testing request:
Please will you take 10 minutes to visit your tower’s page on Dove, and check the  information on it is correct. Then please click through to your nominated website (wpbells.org or your nominated site) and check that the information matches up. Then check it also matches your page on wpbells.org.   [Visit Dove now]
 
If you find a discrepancy or any errors at all **PLEASE** report back to us using this form – we can then pass the corrections on to the DoveMaster in bulk which is much easier for him! Sorry we can’t pass corrections on to other individual webmasters so you will need to tell them as well if your information is held on a third site.
 
Many thanks
 

Dove Online

dovecoverimage  Dove Online is the international database of church bells.

This site provides a wealth of information on bell ringing locally in Hampshire, The Isle of Wight and the Channel Islands, but Dove provides powerful search facilities across all our towers, and is invaluable for any ringer wanting to venture out and about beyond their own tower. For some examples of Dove Searches please [visit this page].

For technical information about the data shared between Dove and wpbells, please [click here]

For other relevant pages on this site [please click here]

If you have found an error in your Dove Tower Page [please click here]

Technical Background – the data design of wpbells.org and Dove

dovecoverimageDove Online is the international database of church bells, and every attempt is made by the Dove team, and the army of local contacts who send in updates, to ensure that its information is correct at all times.

It holds information which is permanent or semi-permenant* about YOUR tower, and should be seen as THE DEFINITIVE SOURCE of that information.  See an example of a tower page on Dove.

*Temporary changes last under 6 weeks. Anything affecting your tower for 6 weeks or more should be on Dove.

Some of the data from Dove is duplicated onto wpbells.org – specifically, postcode, latitude and longitude, number of bells, tenor weight, tuning, and Practice Night, for the convenience of users.

From early 2016 onwards, the wpbells team will run regular updates FROM Dove TO the Guild site to ensure that any changes in the real world make it safely onto the Guild site. Before that time, we have no way of knowing, if the 2 sites are out of line, which one should be regarded as correct. Hence the request for checking made in December 2016.

From now on, changes in Practice Night information which the wpbells team are aware of, will be forwarded to Dove so that the 2 systems both reflect reality to the best of our knowledge.

An increasing number of towers have complex practice night schedules and Dove is really designed for a simple summary. Since your tower now has a page, where you can share as much information as you wish, we suggest you keep a summary on Dove, for example “Mon, see website” if you sometimes cancel, “Wed(Thu) see website” if you hold most practices on a Wednesday but monthly on a Thursday, etc…

Bell Data is a specific area of expertise and the Dovemaster provides guidence notes if you are planning to change one of these.

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